In Legal & Lucrative Pt. 3, we're continuing our conversations with attorneys who have built successful practices and are willing to share the experiences, challenges, and lessons they've learned along the way. While our guests come from the legal profession, the business insights they share apply to entrepreneurs and business owners across all industries.
From leadership and marketing to financial management and sustainable growth, each episode explores what it really takes to build and run a successful business. Whether you own a law firm, lead a growing company, or are looking for fresh ideas to improve your business, these conversations offer practical advice and real-world perspectives you can put to work.
Meet the Featured Attorneys
Ryan McKeen
Attorney Ryan McKeen reflects on why he launched his own firm, how his role evolved from solo litigator to CEO of a roughly 40-person team, and why growth has to be an intentional decision rather than an accident
Josh Schmerling
Josh Schmerling explains the challenge of balancing trial work with firm management, the need for a strong team, and limiting cases to make time for leadership.
Lee Rudin
Attorney Lee Rudin explains that he didn’t set out to start his own firm but organically grew a plaintiff personal injury practice. He discusses balancing lawyering with ownership. His main growth focus is case acquisition.
Tom Spiggle
Attorney Tom Spiggle shares what inspired him to start his own firm and what surprised him most. He discusses how he learned to separate “lawyer” work from ownership duties, including using calendar blocking, being intentional about which hat he’s wearing, and hiring help early.
Andrew Hays
attorney Andrew Hays shares why he started his practice 18 years ago. He explains balancing lawyering with ownership by staying sufficiently staffed. He also discusses difficulty tracking marketing ROI, wishing he’d delegated financial tasks earlier, and why revenue forecasting is unpredictable in trusts and estates litigation with few repeat clients.
Coming Soon
We're excited to introduce another group of accomplished attorneys in an upcoming series of Legal & Lucrative. Stay tuned for another conversation filled with practical insights and real-world experience from a legal leaders.
Why We Created Legal & Lucrative
At CFO Accounting Services, we know that running a successful law firm requires more than legal expertise. It takes intentional leadership, sound financial management, strategic decision-making, and a commitment to continual improvement.
That's why we created Legal & Lucrative. Our goal is to give law firm owners the opportunity to learn directly from attorneys who have successfully navigated the challenges of growing and leading their firms. Every conversation offers real experiences, practical advice, and actionable ideas that can help you build a stronger, more profitable practice.
Ready for More?
Every episode of Legal & Lucrative is packed with practical insights from attorneys who have built successful firms. Watch the full interviews on our YouTube channel, and if you're looking to strengthen the financial side of your own practice, we'd love to start a conversation.
Visit www.cfoaccountingservices.com to learn how CFO Accounting Services helps law firms gain financial clarity, improve cash flow, and make more confident business decisions.






